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1 Enough is enough on Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:32 pm

Ichi8

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Ok I grew fucking tired of some things in this clan that I would like to bring up

Losses at wars, lack of organization and over all making a bad name for our clan.
All those things has but one cause - lack of proper functioning from the leadership which is why I decided to post this here.

First I don't understand whats up with some people quitting right after they get promoted?
People get promoted so they can help the clan more and improve it, not for prestige and respect.
If you are not willing to do that then you might as well resign.

Second - the one who pissed me off quite a lot lately with his decisions was mugi, and no offense, but I honestly don't think he is suitable for a leader position, and is barely even suitable for a captain position.

Here are 2 examples from just yesterday:

1) He invited Nic before he completed the PB test, and thats despite the fact that he even agreed and supported the use this method himself!

2) Made a war against Shugojin when we are clearly not ready to face them..
Just compare their roster to ours

Akatstobi-san
Leonaruto13
Luffy
Lukinhas_itachi
Izuisima
Takamaru
Bones512
Ninjaawsome
*Monkey_d_luffy*
Djangooo
Kismie124

at least half of their roster contains good known players, or "ace" players.
compare that to ours:

1. Kasanova11
2. Freakyomi9
3. Indoorsman not ready for wars
4. Ichi8
5. Rin
6. Spirit_King2012 probably not gonna be able to play for wars
7. Narutomulti
8. Frowny doesn't play for wars
9. ace913 doesn't play for wars
10. QuatroCerberus doesn't play for wars
11. -Light_Soldier- doesn't play for wars

He keeps promising that he won't repeat these stuff but he never keeps his word.
Also he lacks knowledge of our clan members.

I really don't understand why he got promoted.


I wanted to bring this all up because if this shit goes on, I might as well quit.


DISCUSS


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2 Re: Enough is enough on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:51 am

ArchAngel

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Mugi claimed that Cem approved his leadership when he spoke to Dedek, but in the Facebook group Cem said he's demoting him back to Captain.

In all honesty Mugi, you're not even captain material. You lack the maturity to actually manage the clan. The only reason you got captain was because you streaked a lot and won many wars; however, that's not what makes someone suitable to be a captain. I'll use AoP as an example:

- No member has been promoted to captain simply because he or she streaks/wars really well. The people they promote have leadership qualities and are very mature as well.
- Application processes are actually taken seriously. Unless an applicant has been discussed thoroughly, tested, and fits well into the clan, no invite will be sent. Ever. If mugi did the shit he does here in AoP he would've gotten his ass kicked a long time ago.

I'm using AoP because CC is a very good leader and he chooses his captains wisely. He doesn't see his war/streak record only, but his level of maturity and how much of a leader someone can be.

I believe that the maximum amount of captains we should have is three, and we should start choosing them depeding on how good of a captain they can actually be, not just their war/streaking record.


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3 Re: Enough is enough on Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:10 am

aceJiyuuK.

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ArchAngel wrote:Mugi claimed that Cem approved his leadership when he spoke to Dedek, but in the Facebook group Cem said he's demoting him back to Captain.

In all honesty Mugi, you're not even captain material. You lack the maturity to actually manage the clan. The only reason you got captain was because you streaked a lot and won many wars; however, that's not what makes someone suitable to be a captain. I'll use AoP as an example:

- No member has been promoted to captain simply because he or she streaks/wars really well. The people they promote have leadership qualities and are very mature as well.
- Application processes are actually taken seriously. Unless an applicant has been discussed thoroughly, tested, and fits well into the clan, no invite will be sent. Ever. If mugi did the shit he does here in AoP he would've gotten his ass kicked a long time ago.

I'm using AoP because CC is a very good leader and he chooses his captains wisely. He doesn't see his war/streak record only, but his level of maturity and how much of a leader someone can be.

I believe that the maximum amount of captains we should have is three, and we should start choosing them depeding on how good of a captain they can actually be, not just their war/streaking record.
Finally someone understands its "Maturity" we need someone assertive and mature to handle management tasks ...Mugi is a great dude we often talk privately about many different things but do I necesarrily feel he is right for this position ..I do not.. and its nothing personal just being someone who has been here a great deal of time personally and being an older player I lean more towards the "maturity" argument... and since Vers already put it out there I also was told by parties I wont mention that you did not receive Cems approval but ... but that's none of my business

In regards to Ichi... I agree that this is not the first time someone has bypassed the recruiting method and that isn't a good thing to see if we aren't going to follow the procedure we set then why have it? and that is where another thing Ichi said comes into context " Lack of Organization" Now I believe I made another topic which addresses that... so would it be fair to say that topic meant nothing ? lol


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4 Re: Enough is enough on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:46 pm

ArchAngel

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Can we stop warring the extremely good clans until we get a decent roster? Just compare that roster to this one..



Can we have the rest of the captains/leaders speak up? This shit seriously has to be dealt with.


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5 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:09 am

Ichi8

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After I already told him to update it like 5 times..
As I said - doesn't even do his job as a captain.
Can we just demote him ?


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6 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:23 am

Aster

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ichi8 wrote:
After I already told him to update it like 5 times..
As I said - doesn't even do his job as a captain.
Can we just demote him ?

... Unsure


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7 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:39 am

ArchAngel

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If he gets demoted he's going to leave. Not like I care, but other superiors like bubz probably do.


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8 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:50 pm

BUBBLECHEWs

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Only thing I can propose is to make wars with ONLY people that are ready.
Lets stop using our "original" teams and go with the flow and use the same teams everyone is using, they seem to work don't they? Originality is not making us win any wars so yes.


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9 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:45 pm

Ichi8

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BUBBLECHEWs wrote:Only thing I can propose is to make wars with ONLY people that are ready.
Lets stop using our "original" teams and go with the flow and use the same teams everyone is using, they seem to work don't they? Originality is not making us win any wars so yes.
Wtf this topic is not about the teams we use in wars, it doesn't matter what teams we use as long as they get us wins.

Its about our leadership and especially mugi who keeps pissing me off with his stupid actions that make us look bad, and doesn't even lead for shit.. So much for a leader who should manage us and represent us.
When I ask him to do stuff for the clan he never does them; For example recording players war wins, sending invites to people HE accepted, or updating a fucking war that he made.

And the most annoying part is that his defense arguments is that I'm not doing my job, when clearly I've been the only one who's been doing his job.

Im trying to help as much as I can with the clan even if it sometimes fucks my studying up, but I just can't go on like this anymore.


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10 Re: Enough is enough on Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:18 pm

KingCem

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1. Do what bubz said.
2. Where did mugi demotion go,  Gooby


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11 Re: Enough is enough on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:15 am

Claydee

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Demote him to member SiB

https://soundcloud.com/itsclydee

12 Re: Enough is enough on Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:26 pm

Nostalgic

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i completely agree. especially with the 3 captains part. having like 8 captains is over kill especially when they're all, except for like 2, supposed to have the same purpose.
plus having 1000 oranges in chat is an eyesore.

if that were to happen i'd suggest ace, vers, and one other that you all would prefer.

13 Re: Enough is enough on Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:22 pm

BUBBLECHEWs

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14 Re: Enough is enough on Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:49 pm

ArchAngel

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Vers doesn't captain


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15 Re: Enough is enough on Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:21 pm

ArchAngel

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I'd like to let you all know that a member (I won't mention who) has talked to me and shared his thoughts. He basically wants to join another clan due to our lack of organization and immature captains/leaders. In all honesty I agree with him, our organization and promotions are very sloppy and need serious improvement.

I managed to convince this person to stay, but if things keep on being like this he/she'll probably leave and join another clan.

TL;DR: Immature captains and sloppy organization makes clans lose members and we need to improve in these aspects.


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16 Re: Enough is enough on Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:22 am

Claydee

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mugi

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17 Re: Enough is enough on Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:26 am

Spirit_King

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ArchAngel wrote:I'd like to let you all know that a member (I won't mention who) has talked to me and shared his thoughts. He basically wants to join another clan due to our lack of organization and immature captains/leaders. In all honesty I agree with him, our organization and promotions are very sloppy and need serious improvement.

I managed to convince this person to stay, but if things keep on being like this he/she'll probably leave and join another clan.

TL;DR: Immature captains and sloppy organization makes clans lose members and we need to improve in these aspects.
just tell me his fucking name
imma fuck him up badly
just tell me his fucking greek name alien alien tongue

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