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Dedek

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Hello.

As you might already know, Ichi8 left us a few days ago.

I've always seen Ichi as someone who has the potential to be the next clan leader and make us really strong as a clan because of Ichi's previous experience, that's why Im more than surprised that you guys don't even realize what you've lost yet.

Since I feel that this is just a big misunderstanding and that if explained well, and talked about, this whole thing could get solved and Ichi could return to the clan and lead it together with Bubz and Cem until we all die, I decided to make a topic about this very important matter.

Basically, I want Ichi to rejoin, but he left because of valid reasons and also because he felt like you guys didnt take his actions and words seriously and ignored them.

Im now going to post some of the reasons here and I want you all to think about them and see for yourself.

I can only tell you that I already posted in Ichi's topic he made about this clan before, and those changes he wanted to make felt really useful to me.


List of things to be changed (thanks Ichi for stating them in pc with me)


1) Communication

   Every few weeks Bubz goes on some working trip (which is understandable), but he doesnt post an annoucement about it so noone knows and cant sub people in wars and solve other problems.

+ Sometimes when Cem is not active n-a wise while Bubz is on the working trip, Ichi would be the only leader who can do stuff, so basically, it would be good if cem could work it out somehow that he can always be around when bubz is not. You dont have to do much Cem, but just try to be active when Bubz is not, so our members wont be mad that our clan leaders are inactive.


Also CAPTAINS need to do more work so there is not so much workload on LEADERS.

(by that I obviously dont mean that leaders will throw all the work on their captains, but it should all work like a machine.. if you can follow my mind train - basically leaders should know the things to do to run the clan smoothly and if they can manage to them alone, its fine but usually captains are needed, since noone wants to be such 24/7s on n-a..)



2) Free invitations.

   The thing with free invitations is that people who work hard on their stats to be able to apply here can get butthurt and also if those who get free invite leave the clan fast after they got free invitation, our reputation goes down the toilet.

We should make the recruitment topic active again and make everyone apply. I dont really think that we should be "invite only" because it can be easily abused.

A lot of people (like Frowny (I <3 Frowny tho), Aid, Miz, Rory, Jay, Rorim, Ryu, Cam (my Salem guy <3), Sage, mighty-mo101 (some guy from suishou who was far from meeting requirements and didnt even talk in chatbox)), got free invitations and we will not really kick anyone, but we need to stop this free inviting, like really.


3) Free promotions.


   It's kinda self-explanatory. People need to work harder for promotions and be loyal. We once had a rule that a captain could be only someone who has bee in the clan for at least 6 months. Now we have a captain who has been in the clan for like a month?

Also if a captain/leader leaves, there is no need to hastily promote someone.

4) Captain / Leader duties


   Basically, if you are a captain or a leader, you should try to be a role model in activity and behavior. Captains & Leaders should:

- be active
- post on applications, forum, mainthread
- keep track of wars and records
- know who to put on member and when
- not send free invitations or make unnecessary promotions
- member people in chatbox

Also, the ideal scenario for leaders is to make the captains&members do their clanwork by their own (leaders') actions and not by forcing them. However, since this might not be always possible and might not even always work, its good to keep the captains ALWAYS reminded of their duties but not as in leaders should dump all the work on them, but like somehow make it balanced, maybe appoint different people (captains) onto different tasks (of their choice possibly).


5) Captains - their activity

   Ichi posted in his forum topic about problems in the clan, that our captains are not doing much work, so they promised (Multi & Yomi) that they would manage clan wars  but he had to do it himself eventually, because they didnt do it. All in all, captains are supposed to help and be active as much as possible.

It also takes us back to point number 3). Dont make hasty promotions or the new captains will end up not helping when they're needed.


6) Wars & Behavior

   We should challenge only clans that we feel like beating, we shouldnt get raped by the same clans over and over, lets just train and challenge them later.

Also dont talk shit about clans who can beat us like nothing.



7) Other games

   We shouldnt promote other games than Naruto-Arena in the main chat as much. Other clans like DVI / Shugojin have been damaged a lot by this... I know you guys want to play other games with ur mates, but just try to be discrete, thanks.  Wink



Also, after Ichi left, Bubz invited some people and said something like "You guys didnt really have to apply because we are an invite only clan now." Thats making them think that they would waste time by applying. This has no benefit whatsoever. We should really have the requirements and recruitment topic back (in my opinion).


So, if we want to change our clan for the better and improve and have back our good reputation and make us strong in wars again and

GET ICHI BACK IN THE CLAN,

we need to work on those changes.

I hope that you guys will understand that it's not directed hatefully against someone, this is pure constructive criticism which I welcome, because that is what makes things  better.

I need Bubz and Cem to help me implement these changes so we can all be happy again.


#SAVETHECLAN #GETICHIBACK #OMFG



Last edited by Dedek on Sun May 31, 2015 9:14 am; edited 7 times in total


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KingCem

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Valid points, But I would like to Point out Miz has only been in the clan for a month but he has done a shitload he has kept people in check and works out wars and such Miz is a great captain not gonna lie. Also I do try to keep active as possible. On top of that I would like to not kick anyone who is already in the clan , nobody gets kicked on my watch. Sure we can also open up the recruitment thread again since we got a decent amount of members that can vote on applications now. 

Tbh me and bubz did free invites only because we needed to revive the clan activity and there were some individuals worthy of the invites either way. 

I have some terms for Ichi if he does comeback, he shouldn't be hostile towards people in clan and not kick anyone and tell him to stop being negative about the choices people make. As long as he obeys the clan leaders am fine.


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Dedek

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KingCem wrote:Valid points, But I would like to Point out Miz has only been in the clan for a month but he has done a shitload he has kept people in check and works out wars and such Miz is a great captain not gonna lie. Also I do try to keep active as possible. On top of that I would like to not kick anyone who is already in the clan , nobody gets kicked on my watch. Sure we can also open up the recruitment thread again since we got a decent amount of members that can vote on applications now. 

Tbh me and bubz did free invites only because we needed to revive the clan activity and there were some individuals worthy of the invites either way. 

I have some terms for Ichi if he does comeback, he shouldn't be hostile towards people in clan and not kick anyone and tell him to stop being negative about the choices people make. As long as he obeys the clan leaders am fine.


Ofc we wont kick anyone, its just for the future.

If Miz is doing the job well, its ok then, but still, we should respect the half year rule from now on.

Btw I dont think we should really make terms for Ichi's comeback, I think we should be thankful if he decides to rejoin after we make the changes needed...

From my personal experience, Ichi is not hostile towards people, but thats just me, maybe someone else thinks different.

For the last thing you mentioned, I understand where you're coming from, but sometimes even clan leaders make mistakes, and therefore its good to point them out. Sometimes "obeying" is not the best thing to do in order to make things better, but yeah, again, I understand you, on the other hand Ichi is someone, who could, at least I think so, become the next clan leader and make up for when you guys are not active, that's why I kinda feel like his opinions are really important than if he was just a leader.


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Aster

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Let's just be honest guys, I'm not in n-a anymore, or anything, cem and bubz i love you guys, you're my friends and all, but you are terrible leaders, you have no charisma and leadership skills, you're just very likeable persons.

Yes I said it. And zonx same goes for you, the only good leaders we had here were ichi and dedek.

Seph was somewhat good but he was weak willed.


Now I won't deny, that compared to me, bubz and cem you did a terrific job, and bubz you completely revived the clan, but now without kinda throwing our elite clan ideology out of the window.


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KingCem

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Basically the only reason ichi left was because we were free inviting people to revive the clan. Thats his only objection but he should have thought it through because clan is now way more active.


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Aster

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KingCem wrote:Basically the only reason ichi left was because we were free inviting people to revive the clan. Thats his only objection but he should have thought it through because clan is now way more active.

Which is why I have not been opposing this.


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KingCem

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Aster wrote:
KingCem wrote:Basically the only reason ichi left was because we were free inviting people to revive the clan. Thats his only objection but he should have thought it through because clan is now way more active.

Which is why I have not been opposing this.
See Luca is against free invites just as much as Ichi but he didnt overreact like Ichi and leave the clan. Luca knew we had some purpose to it :S I wouldnt free invite people if it didnt have a purpose, we  used to have like 2 people in chat a a day and apps would like like 4 weeks because of amount of inactivity. But now we can do apps because we actually have active members who may vote on apps. You can thank me and bubz later for reviving clan. Always here when in neeed  8D


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Dedek

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It might have been a good way to revive the clan, but we should make our requirements high again & revive the recruitment topic imo..

no hate on each other guys, lets handle this like professionals and just work on this thing together



I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you



#lets #get #ichi #back #plz



EDIT: Nvm, he wants to join another clan.. well, lets work on those changes tho.


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